Sunday, September 9, 2012

Marriage & The MC: Your Club or Your Spouse



By: Sucka Free MC staff reporter Jazzie
Lady FAME Riders MC Cincinnati, OH

 I feel I should introduce myself before I get into the subject of this blog.

My name is Jazzie and I’m the VP of an all-female motorcycle club located in Cincinnati, Ohio. Our club was founded as a co-ed club in August 2003 and restructured as an all-female organization in March 2008. I have been a member of the club since December 2003 and was elected as VP in January of this year.

One of my prospects recently asked me, “Being a married woman in a club and on the set, how do you deal with that and how do you keep your marriage strong?” The prospect has been married for six years and I can tell that protecting her marriage is a big concern for her, as it should be. She even shared that one of the reasons she was attracted to my club was because she knew a few of our members are married. At the time I responded by advising what I feel works for me, but also told her that what works for me, may not work for others because as we all know, each relationship is different. So, what a coincidence when only a few days later, Preach told me I had been recommended as a guest author to write a blog on the subject of marriage on the MC circuit/community/set. More specifically, the blog is to focus on how does a person keep a marriage strong when they belong to the MC life and have a passion for it? I told him I didn’t know if I’m the candidate best suited to write a piece on keeping a marriage strong. I said that because this is my third marriage and we are still newlyweds, having not even been married for a year yet. I know that there must be other couples on the set whose relationships are strong and who have been together for a greater length of time, but I still feel honored that my opinion was asked for and I don’t mind sharing my thoughts on the subject.

First and foremost, you have to already have a solid and strong marriage as a foundation off the set before it will work on the set. As I thought about this topic, I kept going back to the fact that the ways to keep a marriage strong on the set are basically the same ways to keep a marriage strong off the set. There are no differences except for that everything on the MC set is magnified 100x. So arguments, compromises, differences, disagreements, and options (groupies) can appear larger than life on the set when the same circumstances may not have the same appearance off the set. My husband commented to me that the MC set will make a bad marriage worse and constantly test a good marriage. Well put, honey. That’s why having that foundation from the get go is important. But I also believe if you are really a part of being on the set, then this is your LIFE, not just your lifestyle and if that’s the case, as it is with me, then there is no separating the two. In my mind, I am always “on the set”.

I am spoiled because my husband is also always “on the set”.  He’s a President of an MC here in Cincinnati and has the same values regarding MC culture and life. I’m sure this makes our life and marriage much easier to manage than those folks who may have spouses who are not also a part of the MC circuit. We are blessed because we have the same mindset and the same commitment and enthusiasm for an activity that is an integral part of us and our relationship. That doesn’t mean we don’t face challenges because we do and again, I believe the same way to approach marriage on the set is the way you would approach marriage off the set. I found several sites online offering marriage advice (I know, corny right but I needed a template to initiate my thought process) and also had a sit down with my hubby before he and I agreed that the following guidelines were the best “bullet points” regarding maintaining a good and healthy marriage. Of course, I have tried to make it as relevant to the MC set as I can.

Show Love
Never ever let love diminish from your lives. So what if you are busy with work and constantly have club business to tend to? An OMC friend of mine stated that his mentor advised him to not be afraid to tell his Ol’ Lady he loves her and to show it. He said he was told to know when to go home and take care of home because if your house is not in order then this club life will never work out. I told my prospect who asked me about marriage, “Don’t let this MC stuff affect your home life”.  I know that’s easier said than done for some, but it shouldn’t be difficult if your family is always your first priority. I’ve seen many marriages fall apart strictly because of the MC set (mine included) and it’s not worth it. Keep your family and home #1.

Don’t Nag
Now this may apply more to those who have spouses off of the set. I recently wrote a Facebook post addressing this very issue. I have often wondered why so many women give their men a hard time about riding and being with the fellas if he belongs to a motorcycle club (or even if he doesn’t). Is it mainly women who don’t ride who constantly bitch when their significant other wants to turn a corner or go on a long distance ride with fellow riders? Or do those of us who ride also complain when our significant other wants to take a ride without us? And the same can be applied to the obligations those of us who belong to a club have to our club. We need to attend club meetings. Those of us who hold positions in our club may need to attend additional “officers only” meetings. We have club runs and other obligatory commitments. Do we want to be given the third degree or have an argument each and every time one of these events comes up and we have to walk out the door? No. You have to understand that every person has a limit of tolerance. Once you push a person beyond that level, trouble occurs. Pick your battles.


Respect
Does this really need an explanation? You give respect, you get respect. Don’t forget your spouse has an individual identity, despite the fact that you are a couple. This is a huge aspect between me and my husband. He and I have both been on the set for years and were familiar with each other before we started dating. We each had a mutual respect for one another as riders and for our roles in the MC community prior to becoming a couple. I know that the initial foundation of respect I had for him has been a cornerstone in our marriage. I would never contemplate speaking to him crazy or out of turn in anger as I have done in past relationships and I believe that deep rooted respect is one reason why.

Resolve Fights
Never ever leave fights or bitter arguments for the next time. Resolve your arguments and fights then and there. Do not hesitate to say “sorry” if it’s your mistake. I can honestly say that my husband and I don’t fight, at all. We don’t always see eye to eye on issues but we “agree to disagree” and leave it at that. I was dismayed and saddened recently when one of my brothers approached me about issues he and his wife were having. He shared with me that when he had left their home for the trip he was currently on, his wife refused to give him a kiss because they had been arguing. What? This man was traveling out of state on 2’s and couldn’t even get a goodbye kiss from his wife. I was shocked. How many of us (men and women both) behave in that manner? How would his wife feel if, God forbid, that was his last ride and he didn’t make it back home? The old saying for married couples is to never go to bed angry. For bikers in relationships, we should never depart one another’s company angry. Ever.

Communicate
Talk to each other as much as you can. It helps to bring two people closer and you get to understand each other better. A part of good communication is good listening. Actually listen to your partner and hear what they are saying. You can’t do this if you are already thinking in your mind how you’re going to reply to a comment they are making. This may be a reason why my husband and I don’t fight. We communicate effectively and don’t get frustrated with each other.

Be Faithful
This one is probably the biggest challenge to couples on the MC set. There are so many opportunities to NOT be faithful and it’s easier to have an indiscretion on the circuit. Hell, it seems like it’s almost encouraged to be a whore in the MC community. Men and women both are faced with groupies who throw themselves at a biker. Individuals are constantly surrounded by attractive folks of the opposite sex we are told to “network” with.  Add to that the code of “secrecy” and loyalty amongst bikers and their clubs and to many, it is way too tempting to not get a little taste from someone other than your spouse within the MC world. In order to keep a relationship alive, you have to have faith and trust in your partner. No one is perfect and you have to accept the other person just as he/she accepts you, with both the positives and the negatives. But if that faith and trust is ever broken, it can sometimes be damn near impossible to earn it back. And yes, it has to be EARNED, over time. Why risk losing that trust? Is a piece of ass really worth it? For me, if you have no trust, there’s no point in being in a relationship. Again, if your family and home is a priority to you, this shouldn’t be difficult or an issue.

Compromise
Everyone is required to make compromises at some point in life. It is not possible to have everything that you desire, at the expense of someone else. Again, this isn’t a big deal in my household because we are both on the set and usually have the same commitments that need to be met and can do them together. For those who may have to explain their continued absences to a partner at home, compromise can be a great tool to utilize. Do you really have to go to that meeting or party? And if the answer is yes, I am required to go to that party, why not take your mate with you? Of course, only if that works for you and yours. I know some marriages on the set that work only because the MC life is kept completely separate from the home life, to the point that no one on the set has ever even seen some folks’ husbands or wives. Or know they are married for that matter.  

Honesty
Honesty is another important aspect of maintaining a strong marriage. I never doubt or wonder about what my husband tells me. He was actually brutally honest with me before we got married. Considering we had both been on the set for years and knew the same people, and moved in the same circles, we decided it was best to air our skeletons and share with one another any information we didn’t want the other to potentially hear from someone else. You all can interpret that however you choose. And ouch! My feelings got hurt but I appreciated hearing what I heard from him and not from a third party. He told me he wanted me to know everything I needed to know and didn’t want anyone to be able to come to me and tell me anything I wasn’t already aware of. So I know ALL of his “dirty little secrets”…he only had a couple, and he knows about mine. We continue to approach our marriage the same way now. No one can come to me and tell me anything about my husband! Please don’t even try. That sense of trust in him gives me a calm, peace, and resolve I didn’t experience in my previous marriages.

Take a Break
Allot one day in the week that you will devote just for the two of you. It could be every Sunday (church, football game, or a movie) and it doesn’t need to be anything extravagant or too mushy. You have to continue to do the things that attracted your mate to you in the first place. Don’t ever take one another for granted. I read somewhere once that a good marriage is one where you fall in love with your spouse over and over again. Do whatever it takes to make that happen. And if you happen to be a couple who are both on the set, make sure you engage in activities together that don’t have anything to do with club commitments. I’m sure some folks who know me may think I breathe, eat , and live MC…that I’m “obsessed” with it but it really isn’t all I do or all I know. I have other hobbies and interests that my hubby and I engage in and it gives us a breather from being on the set. Being friends is extremely important. My husband is my best friend and I love being able to say that and mean it.

I have tried to break it down as simply as I could, what I believe is necessary to enjoy a drama-free marriage and still entertain your passion for the MC circuit/community/set. I can only speak on what I know of course, and these are points that are important and relevant to me. I know some folks may think I’ve missed the mark entirely and that’s fine. We all come from different circumstances and experiences. Ultimately, everyone has to figure out what works for their own household and peace of mind.

But know this, if you’re in a committed relationship or married, and act like you’re single, eventually you will be.

Jazzie

43 comments:

  1. Well said sister! My hubby and I are 12 yrs in to our marriage. We both enjoy the same hobbies, interest etc; we involve are children with some M.C. events that are kid friendly. So you hit the nail on the head when you say incorporate somewhat of your home life and mannerisms into the MC set. But again like you say, that works for us!

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  2. Thank you for reading and leaving a comment!

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    1. Well written Jazzie! #cincypride

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  3. Well written....My husband is a chapter president of a OMC and we've married for 7 years - together almost 9 years. He was not in a club when we met and joined a non OMC club shortly after we married. At 1st is was HELL..and I mean absolute HELL!! I didn't think we were going to make it. I was jealous, insecure, bitchy, unaccepted..list goes on and on and on. Not to get to personal, but he made some decisions that were less then desirable to continue through a strong marriage. So we had to rebuild AGAIN from ground zero. Then he joint the OMC...prospecting is around 1 year. I didn't see him for almost that whole year. He was on the road to every city you could think of putting in his time while I was at home with kids and responsibilities. Again....I was NOT a happy camper. Now we are year 3 of the OMC and we still have our ups and downs but what marriage doesn't right. I've learned that being a bitch only keeps him on the highway without me on the back. So about a year ago I decided to get my endorsement, embrace the set, make friends, learn the game and support my Wheel 100%. Since I made the mental decision our marriage has improved like you could never imagine. So my advise...take care of home 1st, HAVE SEX and lots of it with your spouse, embrace and enjoy the set TOGETHER!! Much Love...Carla

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    1. Carla - thank you so much for reading and leaving a comment lady. I have read some of your comments on other topics and must say that you seem like a woman who is smart and has a good head on her shoulders. I should have addressed a good point you brought up which is, for some, reaching a happy accord in a marriage does not happen overnight or right away. It may take time but ultimately when you get there, it is worth the effort and time taken and definitely a good place to be. And another GREAT point you mention...HAVE SEX and lots of it...do the kinky shit (that you're comfortable with) as well. Let your mate be more than satisfied at home. That way, they are not so easily tempted when away. Much love and respect to you sis...

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    2. You're a great woman and wife. I am very proud and honored that you share yourself with me and my lifestyle.

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  4. That is a GREAT message.. I wish you could go on a talk show and reach the non-riding spouses with this message. I printed it out and did the watercooler convo at work, and that just spit fuel on an already burning fire. I think having functions that include the non-riding spouse once in a while could help, but like you said..magnified a hundred times comes into play too. Thats a great message, and I continue to say it..whenever it comes up.

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    1. Thank you for reading and taking the time to comment. Sometimes I have a hard time relating to non-riding significant others or spouses because I myself ride so of course I understand the set much easier than those who are not a part of it. I appreciate you spreading the context of this blog. Hopefully it can reach someone and encourage them to try to be a little more understanding of their spouse who belongs to a club. You are also correct with your comment that it helps to have family functions where you can include your kids or spouse along with your MC family. Both my club and my husband's club try to do this as often as we can. It helps when non-riding spouses can meet and get to know the other spouses in a club.

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  5. Jazzy , good blog hun , I make it work with my wife 7 yrs in the MC game

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    1. Wow, 7 years ! Congratulations ! Thank God for honest Men !

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  6. Great read Jazzie. Id like to share a couple things that have helped me.

    Don't argue in public......If you are in your husbands face screaming cussing etc., how can you expect any other man to respect your mate. To me that is disrespectful and just tacky. Not to mention the groupies are watching, you just showed your hand mom ie. How easy will it be for them to stroke the ego you just deflated in public. Hold your man up, have some respect. If you are on the set, you should definitely know better. It's a male dominant environment where woman are still fighting to get respect, you can't diminish his respect and standing on the set with this type of public scrutiny.

    Ladies if you don't ride, don't demand to join his club just to be included.........Again, you are doing your husband and the community a dis service by flying colors and having a vote and you don't own a bike. Just because you have that marriage certificate doesn't mean your contract extends to this lifestyle. If fact more problems occur if you are on the set to "watch" your husband. To many times in coed clubs your marriage is challenged because you and your spouse disagree and one is pressured to vote or influence one way or another because of their spouse. Call me old fashion or whatever but whatever he says when it comes to MC rules, and I would never disagree with him on the set.

    Be a mature realistic adult........If think your husband is the finest thing since slicest bread, guess what someone else might as well. For some reason we do magnify things as Jazzie said on the set. I have been standing right beside my husband when a woman has tried to holla. It's funny to me to watch him blush and tactfully turn her down. Get over it, he or she will get propositioned.....it's logical, remember they are the finest thing since slicest bread.

    Make sure you know YOUR CONTRACT.......my club sisters crack up laughing when I say "oh no I can't go, I gotta fulfill some things within my contract". I'll tell you I'm very familiar with my contract, I'm aware of my options, my bonuses, and my bottom line obligations. I know what I have to do at home, before I can go out and exercises my options. But please don't try this at home.....its MY CONTRACT. You have to figure out what yours is, especially if your spouse isn't on the set. Like Jazzy said, home first.

    Bring your spouse around other married people on the set.......this is important because they can see it's not a single, free for all orgy. There are several marriages that are working. And as they say it takes a village to raise a child, so does it to keep a marriage. In this lifestyle we have to support each other. Heaven forbid something happen and your spouse is at hospital and knows none of the 20 bikers in the lobby. We can be a support system for each other. Not everyone is hating on each other or back stabbing. How did you like seeing baby pics at last MC event Jazzie...smh, my husband not me lol.

    Bottom line the set doesnt destroy your marriage. Not adapting and embracing what your mate is a part of can. Again great job Jazzie.

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    1. Dammit woman you could have written this blog! I will volunteer you for the next one...gotta return the favor you bestowed on me by recommending me to write this one...lol. Thank you so much for your input. Everything you stated is oh so true.

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    2. Lol, you did a great job as expected. Im just offering my two cents supporting you sis. But it is a work in progress. Man we have made enough mistakes, about to be 11 years in. I forgot to add.....dont allow anyone to tell you anything about your spouse. That appilies on and off the set. You can't come tell me anything about MINE, we talk about everything. If you trusting what someone else says about your spouse, you really have work to do. If you listening to what someone is telling you about your spouse, you are asking or trouble. Whatever I want to know, I'm going to him, in private. Unfortunately everyone is not going to support your marriage, their are a couple sabotagers in the midst. Want you unhappy because they miserable with them selves.

      Much respect to the couples putting in work.

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    3. Wow what can I say my club sister Whoo Dey is great with her words. I can only agree 100%, me and my old man are both on the set. It has been times when I was not talking to him and would just love to go push him down. But you better believe it will never be on the set. I remember one day we both were mad hopped on bikes going in different directions only to end up the same dang place. When I got there he gave me a hug just like usual and kept it moving. No one knew we was not talking. What goes on in you house must stay out of the community/public eye. If you dont have respect for him, how can you expect someone else to. He stands to lose respect from his club members who will only cause more problems for the both, by making fun of the situation.

      I would say if your other half is not in the community, I would not force it on them, but I would suggest that you include them every now and then, so they have a better understanding. I agree Whoo Dey, ladies if you dont ride, why do you feel the need to be a member of the club. I will tell you me and my half are in different clubs and it works best for me. We really dont even talk about MC club stuff, we keep that out of our house. We do give each other advice because we see and do some things differently with him being in a all male club and me all female. But just as Jazzie and Whoo Dey said it is a learning process and when you figure out how to be secure in what you have to offer your mate and you are giving your mate the same attention as you give the set, it will work out. Just remember home first. If you home is not together how do expect to keep your other home (club) together?

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    4. Thanks for the input Sassy. My mantra is God first, then home (family), work, and my club...in that order. That's what has worked for me for almost 10 years. And you already know how I feel about non-riding spouses being full members in a MC so I won't even speak on that here.

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  7. this is a great piece being that im always out and doing things witha club or just ouit with the fellas its hard having to explain what im doing how long imma be gone now i can just tell her to read this and ill be back...lmao..great write up jazzy

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  8. Im guessing these are not 1% Clubs being discussed here, as there is a whole different set of rules there. Well written & informative blog.I have been a 1% Ol lady since I was 15. I ride my own bike, married & live by a completely different code. Whatever works for you..that's my motto. Sun on your back & wind in your face.

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    1. Much respect to you as an ole lady. Alot of people dont know what that means just like with property of. I would love to hear what you think is different then what was shared. My piece was spoken from a married person on the set, with a husband on the set. You may ve able to help another wife who is out there struggling with trying to adapt to her spouse being in an OMC. Im sure any experiences would help. I know I have friends in 99% who as Jazzie stated get nagged for doing what they love, riding and hanging out with the guys. But its a transition for your mate if you arent on the circuit as well.

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    2. Razormuse...much respect and thank you for commenting. Yes, this blog was written from my perspective and no, I do not belong to an OMC. As Whoo Dey stated, I would love for you to give your input regarding the code you live by. I just shared on Preach's page that I have NO knowledge of Property or what it means to be Property and am anxious to learn. Hopefully, this topic will be a blog subject soon here on this website so stay tuned!

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  9. I love this post. If I ever have to counsel a married couple within the MC community I will surely refer to the basic topics you presented. I love my husband dearly and did not know how to balance work, school and him being a newlywed. Boy did I get a wake up call. Anyway love the piece. Spirit loving Seven

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  10. This is Really A Great Topic that All Men /Women should read I have enjoyed reading all of the post and myself have been with my spouse for 18yrs and 4 yrs on set with my spouse and at first I was against it because of the past rumours before I was introduce to it. First I came in as his property of then became the prez of a SC. My test and trial came when he told me himself when he was a regular patch member no one (female) even spoke to him then he became SGT of Arm and he said that he seen how the females started flocking to him then he became president and he said they where throwing the panties at him LOL. So he said that's why he used to push the issues of me being on the set with him numerous of times because of these reason. I believe the saying Family,Work, MC/SC Family in that Order. Trust Communication, Support, Dignity, loyalty will make a marriage succeed on and off set.

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    1. Amen...or as Preach would say, "Word."

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  11. Jazzy great job. I agree with you. The MC set does not mess up the home front, people do. As the founder of ALLSTARS MC (all females) we have wives with husbands on the set as well as some with husbands not on the set. We try to ensure we havefunctions that include all the husbands. This helps the husbands to be more comfortable when we leave for out of town trips, because he knows who his wife is around, it also lets him know that we value and respect their relationship. Clubs must and should have respect for someones marriage and relationship. We had a husband that was not involved in the set and really didnt want his wife involved, but once he got to know us, he was all good. When someone is not involved with the set, it does make it hard becuase their are all the negative rumors. But when you have the person involved and comming around they begin to see the family aspects and the positives, which helps them to feel better.

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  12. Enjoyed reading this as well as the positive comments.

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  13. Babe, your blog was wonderful and you really are my best friend. One of my brothers told me he just got engaged and he asked me how we make our marriage work. I told him to marry her because he is in love with her not because he is ready to be married and she is who he's with right now, but because he is in love with her and can't imagine his life without her. I told him that my wife is my best friend and that I could never lie, cheat, or get over on my wife the same way I couldn't do that to him. All that and everything you wrote is what works for me. I will share this with my members, and hopefully this helps some couples out there. I love you!
    Champ NLRMC

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    1. I love you too honey...you are the BEST!

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    2. This was a great read! I couldn't agree more!!! In my case it's my honey that's in the MC world! I support him all the way... Since we been together there has never been an issue about him going riding or having to fulfill a duty because home is his priority!!! As he would say nothing is worth losing home!!!! I will forever stand by him for what he is apart of. Every woman or man should!!! When you have the support, communication, respect, and love it should always be the same on or off set! So again this was wonderful Jazzie!!!! Symone

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  14. Ok, Im just going to be a little MORE RAW and real on this subject.....

    To my ladies who ARE NOT a part of the circuit as in you dont ride, not property etc... Please, please, please Do not as Jazzy stated send your mate off to ride after nagging at him about :

    Where he going.....Sorry sometimes there just is no destination. Thats the beauty, lets just go this way. And honesty you can set out to go one way and meet up with.some folks and change your mind. Its just the way it is. I know I usually want to know where he going, he has responsibilites, thibgs could happen etc. All that is true in the real world, but when you get with a group of people to ride, the best time us the most unorganized.

    Who you going to be with.....in other words are woman going to be there ? More than likely YES. The reality is, we are everywhere lol. An even further reality as Jazzie stated is TRUST. Bottom line and I know most dont want to hear this, its other people who want to have sex everywhere. If thats what they want to do, they can do it. Doesnt matter if you try to calculate every minute of their day. People find time. But if you try to control them and essentially keep them from doing what they love, you will drive them away. An irritated at home rider can be like sending glazed sheep to the wolves. Send him out there happy.....and satisfied.

    Who is that girl with all those sexy pictures on her motorcycle or on the back of a motorcycle talking to you on fb........okay listen, most of us, yes including myself, are just Dam sexy on our bikes ! So what, doesn mean we want to have sex with your mate. I know its a whole lot of flirt talk happens on the set. Most of it is harmless. Heck ive had more woman who are not gay hit me on my ass then men. Just play, not real. Again if you nagging, barely let then go ride, holding out cuz you mad, and then the actually get out....hear the flirt talk from another woman instead of you....see the sexy pics, and she suppprts his desire to ride.....not a good mix. Support your spouse. There is nothing more sexy than a woman with confidence. I didnt say stupidity....confidence/high self esteem. Talk that talk to him so its not the first he hears it, take them sexy pics on his bike, so no other offer can compare. Real talk there are groupies who simply want to ride bitch, and will f$&k for a ride.

    Be smart ladies, support your mates. Im in no way an expert, but have learned from my mistakes. The circuit is not the big bad sex wolf as seen on tv....but you can send your mate out to the wolves if you not taking care and supporting.

    Ok Jazzie thats last comment im making. Love to you sis

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    1. Once again sis, you are hitting the nail on the head on all points. An entirely different blog could be written about the "wolves" that are on the MC set who have no respect for marriage at all and are waiting to try to have a good man as their own, even when they know he has a wife. Maybe that's the one you should write! Educate us on direspectful folks who exist on the set.

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  15. Good job jazzie. I needed that. Thank you

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  16. Great piece and the information could help many people. I congratulate you for being transparent and sharing. We have a right to pursuit our happiness and I dont understand why a person woukd try to get in the way. Many of the issues existed before and I believe that It's just another issue to add to their current problems.

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  17. Relationships are complex and complicated. If part of it plays out in the MC community be aware that it will get tested even more. I am still married to the President of a Club but we are seperated. He is a bad Person.MC community or not. But him being in it and me not understanding it turned 3 years of my life into hell. The blatant disrespect and disregard for your life and feelings, that chicks in the MC community and even your own spouse might show you is beyond anything people outside of it can imagine. There is this non chalant attitude that people in the circuit seem to carry and it looks,as if people seem to think that cheating in the community is not really cheating because this is your "other" life and your home life won't be affected . I know I never signed up for the mess that came my way and if anybody asked me I would tell em only get involved with somebody in the community if you're a part of it as well.

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    1. Honey thanks for taking the time to reply and for you being so forward and honest. I hate to hear about any relationship (especially a marriage though) not working out. As you know, marriage can be difficult even without the added pressures that are involved when one spouse is involved with the MC community. I do believe though, that if a person is committed to their marriage and about doing the right thing and mature, it IS possible to have and sustain a good relationship, even if one of the persons involved is not a part of the set. I'm not saying that it's easy...but I think it's possible. And you are correct that a lot of folks in the community are disrespectful and have a very nonchalant attitude toward marriage and commitment in general. Most folks who are like that don't take ANYTHING seriously (again, lack of maturity in my mind) and unfortunately that seems to be a majority instead of a minority on the MC set. I wish you well and hope the best for you as you move forward with your life.

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  18. Jazzie, I will say you have spoke with such wisdom. This piece need to be shared with people everywhere. Little did you know the very people you see on the set will exhaled when they read this Blog. It's a beautiful thing to have spouse support. I shared your blog with my (very close friend)and he smiled and said why did you read that to me? I smiled back and repied you know why. I don't want you to stress me about being involved with the MC set. He has heard of the negative rumors about females sleeping around and degrading themselves. To be honest I didn't deny the fact that some DO sleep around. I told him don't get it twisted there's a lot of RESPECTFUL women on the set. We all KNOW who sleeps around. No need to name names. I'm quite sure some faces popped up in your heads, they did in mines lol. . I am very protective of my personal life. The way you carry yourself will speak loud enough about you. As WhooDey stated people are gonna do what they want to do on or off the set. Everybody shouldn't be blamed for somebody elses f-ups. I am very proud of you Lisa, again well said. You and Jason have a prosperous life together. I've said enough gotta go. Maybe you ladies can have a female seminar at one of the local club houses. . IJS. . reach and teach us all. Love You Sis, Ms.Fame LFR

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  19. This is a great post. All the comments are so true. It hits so many different levels of things that occur and have ocurred. I'm currently dating a Pres of a MC club and I'm not in a club myself however I ride have endorsements a bike insurance etc and have been in attendance to many MC events local and out of town and know memebrs of different clubs. I'm very familiar with the culture. I've been approached about joining a club but I'd have to find one that's a fit for me. Many people I actually ride with are independent as well. and Many "fear" the MC world especially when It comes to relationships. Just like any other relationship it requires work from both parties not just one. I've seen people in relationships that are in clubs actually argue at events. My thought was "well you just sent the wolf call out and you don't even know it". Why embarass yourselves or your respective clubs by doing that. I think its important to have that foundation of communicating, respect and boundaries established before club stuff starts or becomes an issue so that it won't be an issue. I actually had one of my friends read this and she was shocked because her thought of MC was that everybody sleeps with everybody and there's no real marriages or relationships that work on the set. Of course thats delussional thinking but people do have a perception of MC life and relationships. Hopefully after reading these comments she will get it lol...Thank you for the read and Be safe Out On Them 2's...

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  20. Thats a good blog couldn't agree more my husband is in the mc world n i support him to the fullest but the only problem was his home was not his priorty n that caused fights n arguments now we are seperated due to this issue n other issues as well i never want him to give up his mc life i jus wanted that husband n wife time... we been together 2 half years n married 8 months our marriage was never first our home was never first all i wanted was a normal marriage n life its ok to have fun i enjoy riding with him always have but i also love that us time as well.....

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  21. awesome...luv'd it!

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  22. I just started dating a durdy boy and he doesn't want to take me to the club...ever. I'm alright with this cuz it's a separate life but is there any other reason as to why I can't be involved...would it change when/if things got more serious

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  23. I just started dating a durdy boy and he doesn't want to take me to the club...ever. I'm alright with this cuz it's a separate life but is there any other reason as to why I can't be involved...would it change when/if things got more serious

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